He used that data to make sure he was reaching the right kinds of respondents as he polled off the voter file in advance of the general election. I like to follow up polling calls and chat with people for 30 minutes.”. He soon came under the wing of the pollster Rod Shealy, an acolyte of the Republican strategist Lee Atwater, and eventually started his own firm. Josh Pasek, a professor of communications, data and political science at the University of Michigan, said that without a sense of the methods the firm uses to reach survey respondents, it’s not possible to rely on the numbers. If President Trump pieces together an Electoral College win on Tuesday, at least one pollster — and perhaps only one — will be able to say, “I told you so.”. Freddie Sayers is the Executive Editor of UnHerd. Almost all of them showed Joe Biden taking most of the battleground states and winning comfortably. Robert Cahaly’s polls have Arizona, Michigan and Florida in the president’s column. In a sense, he has positioned himself as a bard of Trumpism, giving voice to a silent majority — or at least, a majority in the Electoral College — that knows the elites consider its views deplorable, and therefore won’t express them freely to just anyone. Born in Georgia and raised in upstate South Carolina by a banker and a teacher, Cahaly developed a politics obsession as a child and majored in it at the University of South Carolina. “I think we’ve developed something that’s very different from what other people do, and I really am not interested in telling people how we do it,” he said. Credit: Mandel Ngan / AFP via Getty. Trafalgar Group chief pollster Robert Cahaly says Trump is likely to be re-elected with the help of his 'hidden support' and he's in a slight lead in key states like Michigan and Ohio. There is something undeniably enticing about the story of a swashbuckling, norm-busting Southern pollster who rode into 2016 with a fresh approach and proved all the bigger shops wrong. Robert Cahaly is the founder and senior strategist of the Trafalgar Group.He came to national prominence in 2016 because his firm correctly predicted that Donald Trump would win the election in Michigan and Pennsylvania and the Electoral College vote.. Cahaly uses a methodology in his polling to try to take account of what is known as "social desirability bias". It found that more than a quarter of Democrats and Republicans expected to vote for the other party’s nominee, so far out of line with almost all other polls that Silver called the numbers “just crazy.”. In the past four years, studies seeking to quantify a so-called “shy Trump” effect in surveys have generally found little evidence to support it. Nate Silver at FiveThirtyEight gave Trump a 28.6 percent chance of winning the Electoral College in 2016, which is a lot unless you're someone who'd buy a used car that had a 28.6 percent chance of exploding whenever you started the ignition. In addition to frequent appearances on Fox News, Mr. Cahaly was on CNN last week, explaining to Michael Smerconish why he thought the president would walk away with an easy victory — and defending himself against a battery of critiques that Mr. Smerconish called up, one by one, from Mr. Cahaly’s peers. In his last few polls of this election season, Cahaly has found Trump with 2-to-3-point advantages in North Carolina, Arizona, Michigan and Florida, and wider leads elsewhere. To hear him explain it, traditional pollsters (he calls them “dinosaurs”) are crippled by “social desirability bias”: the tendency for respondents to say what they think an interviewer wants to hear, not what they actually believe. He used that data to make sure he was reaching the right kinds of respondents as he polled off the voter file in advance of the general election. Cahaly, of course, has no use for the scepticism of experts. He doesn’t seem to care whether he’s abiding by the best practices of the American Association of Public Opinion Research, the standard-bearing trade organisation, any more than Trump says he cares whether the United States’ NATO allies respect him. During the 2016 Republican primaries, he was early to spot a surge of enthusiasm from many working-class voters who had long felt alienated from politics and helped power Mr. Trump’s ascent. During the 2016 Republican primaries, he was early to spot a surge of enthusiasm from many working-class voters who had long felt alienated from politics and helped power Trump’s ascent. By Robert O'Connell Oct 29, 2020, 9:55am MDT Share this story. Late last month, Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight got his hands on the cross tabs of a Trafalgar poll of Michigan that was still in progress. sharp focus on immigration, Biden to hit reset on nation's fight against COVID-19 on his first day as president, Assuming US presidency, Biden tells divided nation 'democracy has prevailed', On day one, Biden moves to undo Trump’s legacy, Trump revokes ethics ban on aides as he exits Washington, Biden's first year could see record employment growth. That puts him far out of line with almost all major pollsters, whose surveys in those states are generally showing Biden with the edge. Josh Pasek, a professor of communications, data and political science at the University of Michigan, said that without a sense of the methods the firm uses to reach survey respondents, it’s not possible to rely on the numbers. In his last few polls of this election season, Mr. Cahaly has found Mr. Trump with two-to-three-point advantages in North Carolina, Arizona, Michigan and Florida, and wider leads elsewhere. This has largely been disproved by social science, but that hasn’t softened his conviction. But Cahaly insists it is presumptuous for pollsters to assume that they are drawing a representative sample of voters just because they are adhering to the scientific method. Trafalgar does not disclose its methods, and is considered far too shadowy by other pollsters to be taken seriously. These numbers were in the teens like Pennsylvania is, in all those states a week and a half ago,” Cahaly said. In 2010, Mr. Cahaly was arrested and taken to court for violating a law against using automatic calling machines — known as robocalling — to conduct polls. The pollster Robert Cahaly of the Trafalgar Group on his set at Inirtia Studios in Atlanta. To take an example, an engrossing dogfight has broken out between 538’s Nate Silver and Robert Cahaly, the leader of the Trafalgar Group polling outfit, the “only one that got it right” in its polls of the Midwest states that sent Trump over the top in 2016. “I kept getting these stories about people who showed up to vote and didn’t know how to use the voting machines, they hadn’t voted in so long,” Mr. Cahaly said. A veteran Republican strategist, Cahaly even called the exact number of Electoral College votes that Trump and Hillary Clinton would receive — 306-227 — although his prediction of which states would get them there was just slightly off. “The Pollster Who Foretold the Trump Tsunami: Robert Cahaly, derided by Nate Silver as a C-rate pollster, gets the last laugh on 2016.” Lifezette “Few, it seems, paid attention to the surveys from the Trafalgar Group – a Georgia-based consulting firm…The group’s Pennsylvania poll was the only one of dozens since late July to show the GOP nominee in the lead there” Updated: 03 Nov 2020 07:35 PM BdST, The pollster Robert Cahaly of The Trafalgar Group on his set at Inirtia Studios in Atlanta, Nov. 2, 2020. I'm not a Let's Delve Into The Crosstabs guy, but some of the shit here is just crazy. A veteran Republican strategist, Mr. Cahaly even called the exact number of Electoral College votes that Mr. Trump and Hillary Clinton would receive — 306 to 227 — although his prediction of which states would get them there was just slightly off. Accuracy scores are adjusted for the type of election polled, the poll’s sample size, the performance of other polls surveying the same race and other factors. He returns to the country’s political divide, and how unwilling Americans are nowadays to communicate with each other from across the breach of suspicion. But for Cahaly, “I told you so” is already a calling card. This has largely been disproved by social science, but that hasn’t softened his conviction. 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Nate Silver Comments. growth as challenge, Biden nominee vows to track foreign influence on domestic extremist groups, How to watch the 2021 But for Mr. Cahaly, “I told you so” is already a calling card. Robert Cahaly: how we got the polls right. This year, he said, he is using other means to achieve the same result. That person is Robert Cahaly, whose Trafalgar Group this year has released a consistent stream of battleground-state polls showing the president highly competitive against Joe Biden, and often out ahead, in states where most other pollsters have shown a steady Biden lead. “Lee Atwater drilled into everyone around me that you have to get out of the head of politicos and into the head of Joe Six-Pack,” Mr. Cahaly said. “Just judge us by whether we get it right.”, The One Pollster in America Who Is Sure Trump Is Going to Win, https://www.nytimes.com/article/trafalgar-group-poll.html. The pollsters Nate Silver, Doug Rivers and Robert Cahaly have radically different ideas about the coming election BY Freddie Sayers. Mr. Cahaly said he was doing legitimate polling, aimed at truly understanding voters’ opinions — and getting what he called “dead-on” results. Others in the field say they find no evidence to support this in their own work. Mr. Cahaly, of course, has no use for the skepticism of experts. The final election forecast from data journalist Nate Silver… The pollster Robert Cahaly of The Trafalgar Group on his set at Inirtia Studios in Atlanta, Nov. 2, 2020. He was previously Editor-in-Chief of YouGov, and founder of PoliticsHome. Nate Silver and the $10,000 Challenge; TRADES (8) Swinging in FL, NC, PA & WI; GA & MI Senate Seats; ECMoV; Third-Party Smarty; THE LUCKBOX LONGSHOT. Four years ago, he addressed this by asking people both whom they would support for president and whom they thought their neighbors would support. Born in Georgia and raised in upstate South Carolina by a banker and a teacher, Mr. Cahaly developed a politics obsession as a child and majored in it at the University of South Carolina. Cahaly feels no need to reveal his techniques, despite the near-universal doubt about his work from his peers. He says that he uses a mixture of text messages, emails and phone calls — some automated, and some by live callers — to reach an accurate representation of the electorate. “We cannot eliminate the social desirability bias, we can only minimize it.”. >>Giovanni Russonello and Sarah Lyall, The New York Times, Published: 03 Nov 2020 07:35 PM BdST Pollster Robert Cahaly, the head of the Georgia-based Trafalgar Group, saw interest in his company skyrocket in 2016 after he bucked the consensus of other pollsters and forecast that Trump would beat Democrat Hillary Clinton in Michigan and Pennsylvania, two states that were crucial to his victory. Cahaly releases almost no real explanation of his polling methodology; the methods page on Trafalgar’s website contains what reads like a vague advertisement of its services and explains that its polls actively confront social desirability bias, without giving specifics as to how. It found that more than a quarter of Democrats and Republicans expected to vote for the other party’s nominee, so far out of line with almost all other polls that Mr. Silver called the numbers “just crazy.”. Late last month, Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight got his hands on the cross tabs of a Trafalgar poll of Michigan that was still in progress. As different as things are this year, it’s hard to miss the echo of 2016, when Trafalgar occupied a similarly lonely position on the eve of Nov. 8. He soon came under the wing of pollster Rod Shealy, an acolyte of Republican strategist Lee Atwater, and eventually started his own firm. “I’ve given away enough; I’m not giving away any more,” he said, arguing that it had been a mistake to even tell the public about his “neighbor question,” which some other firms have since adopted in their own surveys. So he began to look into who those people might be, and used data available online to create a list of roughly 50 lifestyle characteristics — including, for instance, whether they owned a fishing license — to identify the sorts of low-engagement voters who were turning out in droves. And to do that I like to talk to average people. Conventional pollsters, who abide by long-tested and broadly effective methods to glean a representative sample, aren’t buying it. Above all, Cahaly’s approach centres on the belief that everyone lies, but especially conservatives. 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